Viessmann Vitodens 111-W Quick guide

Installation and service instructions
for contractors
VIESMANN
Vitodens 111-W
Type B1LD, 4.7 to 35.0 kW
Gas condensing storage combi boiler
Natural gas and LPG version
Gas Council Number: 47-819-43, 47-819-44
VITODENS 111-W
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Please follow these safety instructions closely to
prevent accidents and material losses.
Safety instructions explained
Danger
This symbol warns against the risk of injury.
!Please note
This symbol warns against the risk of material
losses and environmental pollution.
Note
Details identified by the word "Note" contain additional
information.
Target group
These instructions are exclusively intended for quali-
fied contractors.
■Work on gas installations may only be carried out by
a registered gas fitter.
■Work on electrical equipment may only be carried
out by a qualified electrician.
■The system must be commissioned by the system
installer or a qualified person authorised by the
installer.
Regulations to be observed
■National installation regulations
■Statutory regulations for the prevention of accidents
■Statutory regulations for environmental protection
■Codes of practice of the relevant trade associations
■Relevant country-specific safety regulations
Safety instructions for working on the system
Working on the system
■Where gas is used as the fuel, close the main gas
shut-off valve and safeguard it against unintentional
reopening.
■Isolate the system from the power supply, e.g. by
removing the separate fuse or by means of a mains
isolator, and check that it is no longer live.
■Safeguard the system against reconnection.
■Wear suitable personal protective equipment when
carrying out any work.
Danger
Hot surfaces and fluids can lead to burns or
scalding.
■Before maintenance and service work, switch
OFF the appliance and let it cool down.
■Never touch hot surfaces on the boiler, burner,
flue system or pipework.
!Please note
Electronic assemblies can be damaged by elec-
trostatic discharge.
Prior to commencing work, touch earthed
objects such as heating or water pipes to dis-
charge static loads.
Repair work
!Please note
Repairing components that fulfil a safety func-
tion can compromise the safe operation of the
system.
Replace faulty components only with genuine
Viessmann spare parts.
Auxiliary components, spare and wearing parts
!Please note
Spare and wearing parts that have not been tes-
ted together with the system can compromise its
function. Installing non-authorised components
and making non-approved modifications or con-
versions can compromise safety and may inva-
lidate our warranty.
For replacements, use only original spare parts
supplied or approved by Viessmann.
Safety instructions
Safety instructions
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Safety instructions for operating the system
If you smell gas
Danger
Escaping gas can lead to explosions which may
result in serious injury.
■Do not smoke. Prevent naked flames and
sparks. Never switch lights or electrical appli-
ances on or off.
■Close the gas shut-off valve.
■Open windows and doors.
■Evacuate any people from the danger zone.
■Notify your gas or electricity supply utility from
outside the building.
■Have the power supply to the building shut off
from a safe place (outside the building).
If you smell flue gas
Danger
Flue gas can lead to life threatening poisoning.
■Shut down the heating system.
■Ventilate the installation site.
■Close doors to living spaces to prevent flue
gases from spreading.
What to do if water escapes from the appliance
Danger
If water escapes from the appliance there is a
risk of electrocution.
Switch OFF the heating system at the external
isolator (e.g. fuse box, domestic distribution
board).
Danger
If water escapes from the appliance there is a
risk of scalding.
Never touch hot heating water.
Condensate
Danger
Contact with condensate can be harmful to
health.
Never let condensate touch your skin or eyes
and do not swallow it.
Flue systems and combustion air
Ensure that flue systems are clear and cannot be
sealed, for instance due to accumulation of conden-
sate or other external causes.
Ensure an adequate supply of combustion air.
Inform system users that subsequent modifications to
the building characteristics are not permissible (e.g.
cable/pipework routing, cladding or partitions).
Danger
Leaking or blocked flue systems, or an inade-
quate supply of combustion air can cause life
threatening poisoning from carbon monoxide in
the flue gas.
Ensure the flue system is in good working order.
Vents for supplying combustion air must be non-
sealable.
Extractors
Operating appliances that exhaust air to the outside
(extractor hoods, extractors, air conditioning units, etc.)
can create negative pressure. If the boiler is operated
at the same time, this can lead to a reverse flow of flue
gas.
Danger
The simultaneous operation of the boiler and
appliances that exhausts air to the outside can
result in life threatening poisoning due to a
reverse flow of flue gas.
Fit an interlock circuit or take suitable steps to
ensure an adequate supply of combustion air.
Safety instructions
Safety instructions (cont.)
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1. Information Disposal of packaging ............................................................................ 6
Symbols ................................................................................................. 6
Intended use .......................................................................................... 6
Product information ................................................................................ 7
■Vitodens 111-W, type B1LD ................................................................ 7
Product description ................................................................................ 7
■Connection accessories ..................................................................... 7
System examples .................................................................................. 7
Spare parts lists ..................................................................................... 7
2. Preparing for installation Preparing for boiler installation .............................................................. 8
■Dimensions and connections .............................................................. 8
■Preparing the connections .................................................................. 8
3. Installation sequence Fitting the wall mounting bracket ........................................................... 10
Mounting the boiler and making connections ........................................ 11
■Removing the front panel and mounting the boiler ............................. 11
■Fitting the connections on the water side ........................................... 11
■Gas connection ................................................................................... 13
■Condensate drain connection ............................................................. 13
■Filling the trap with water .................................................................... 13
■Balanced flue connection ................................................................... 14
Opening the control unit enclosure ........................................................ 15
Electrical connections ............................................................................ 15
■Connection accessories ..................................................................... 16
■Power supply ...................................................................................... 16
■Routing cables/leads and closing the control unit enclosure .............. 17
4. Commissioning, inspec-
tion, maintenance
Steps - commissioning, inspection and maintenance ............................ 18
5. Changing the gas type Changing from operation with LPG to operation with natural gas ......... 39
6. Troubleshooting Function sequence and possible faults .................................................. 40
Fault display ........................................................................................... 40
Repairs .................................................................................................. 43
■Removing the front panel ................................................................... 43
■Outside temperature sensor ............................................................... 44
■Boiler water temperature sensor ........................................................ 45
■Checking the cylinder temperature sensor ......................................... 46
■Checking the outlet temperature sensor ............................................. 46
■Checking the temperature limiter ........................................................ 47
■Checking the flue gas temperature sensor ......................................... 48
■Checking and cleaning the plate heat exchanger ............................... 49
■Checking the fuse ............................................................................... 49
7. Control unit Functions and operating conditions in weather-compensated mode .... 51
■Heating mode ..................................................................................... 51
■DHW heating ...................................................................................... 51
8. Connection and wiring dia-
gram
................................................................................................................ 53
9. Reports ................................................................................................................ 54
10. Specification ................................................................................................................ 55
11. Disposal Final decommissioning and disposal ..................................................... 56
12. Certificates Declaration of conformity ....................................................................... 57
Index
Index
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13. Keyword index ................................................................................................................ 58
Index
Index (cont.)
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Please dispose of packaging waste in line with statu-
tory regulations.
Symbols
Symbol Meaning
Reference to other document containing
further information
1.
Step in a diagram:
The numbers correspond to the order in
which the steps are carried out.
Warning of material losses and environ-
mental pollution
Live electrical area
Pay particular attention.
■Component must audibly click into place.
or
■Acoustic signal
■Fit new component.
or
■In conjunction with a tool: Clean the sur-
face.
Dispose of component correctly.
Dispose of component at a suitable collec-
tion point. Do not dispose of component in
domestic waste.
The steps in connection with commissioning, inspec-
tion and maintenance are found in the "Commission-
ing, inspection and maintenance" section and identified
as follows:
Symbol Meaning
Steps required during commissioning
Not required during commissioning
Steps required during inspection
Not required during inspection
Steps required during maintenance
Not required during maintenance
Intended use
The appliance is intended solely for installation and
operation in sealed unvented heating systems that
comply with EN 12828, with due attention paid to the
associated installation, service and operating instruc-
tions. It is only designed for heating up heating water
that is of potable water quality.
Intended use presupposes that a fixed installation in
conjunction with permissible, system-specific compo-
nents has been carried out.
Commercial or industrial usage for a purpose other
than heating the building or DHW shall be deemed
inappropriate.
Any usage beyond this must be approved by the man-
ufacturer in each individual case.
Information
Disposal of packaging
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Incorrect usage or operation of the appliance (e.g. the
appliance being opened by the system user) is prohibi-
ted and will result in an exclusion of liability. Incorrect
usage also occurs if the components in the heating
system are modified from their intended use (e.g. if the
flue gas and ventilation air paths are sealed).
Product information
Vitodens 111-W, type B1LD
Preset for operation with natural gas The Vitodens 111-W may only be delivered to the
countries specified on the type plate. For deliveries to
other countries, approved contractors must arrange
individual approval on their own initiative and in
accordance with the law of the country in question.
The type plate is located behind the front panel.
Product description
The Vitodens 111-W is equipped with a cylinder and an
integral plate heat exchanger as a cylinder loading
system for DHW heating. For the connection of heating
circuits and the DHW line, see page 11 onwards.
In the delivered condition, the Vitodens 111-W is set up
for operation with a constant boiler water temperature.
By connecting an outside temperature sensor (acces-
sories), the boiler can be operated in weather-compen-
sated mode.
The appliance is equipped with a sealed unvented
hydraulic system with 2 connections for the heating
flow and return and 2 connections for DHW heating.
The following components are integrated into the
hydraulic system:
■Circulation pump
■3-way diverter valve
■Safety valve
■Heating water expansion vessel and DHW expan-
sion vessel
■Cylinder and plate heat exchanger for DHW heating
Connection accessories
Outside temperature sensor and time switch are con-
nected with low voltage to the control unit.
System examples
Available system examples: See www.viessmann-
schemes.com.
Spare parts lists
Information about spare parts can be found on the
Viessmann spare parts app.
Information
Intended use (cont.)
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Dimensions and connections
35
480
945
1003
497
740
900
A
BC
D
E
F GH K
166
5
150
Fig. 1
AArea for electrical connections
BHeating flow 7 22 mm
CCondensate drain
DHeating return 7 22 mm
EFilling/draining
FGas connection 7 22 mm
GSafety valve (DHW side)
HCold water 7 15 mm
KDHW 7 15 mm
Preparing the connections
Note
This boiler (IP rating: IP X4) is approved for installation
in wet rooms inside safety zone 1 in accordance with
IEEE Wiring Regulations, providing the occurrence of
hosed water can be ruled out.
Observe the IEEE Wiring Regulations.
1. Prepare the water connections. Flush the heating
system.
2. Prepare the gas connection.
3. Prepare the electrical connections.
■Power cable:
A flexible cable 3 x 1.5 mm2, approx. 1.5 m long
is connected in the delivered condition.
■Cables for accessories:
2-core sheathed cable min. 0.5 mm2 for low volt-
age
Preparing for installation
Preparing for boiler installation
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Safety assembly to DIN 1988 and EN 806 at the cold water connection
C
F
B
D E GH D
K
D H L M D N K
A
O
Fig. 2
ASafety assembly (accessories for connection sets
for unfinished walls)
BSafety valve
CVisible discharge pipe outlet point (tundish)
DShut-off valve
EFlow regulating valve (installation recommended)
FPressure gauge connection
GNon-return valve
HDrain
KCold water
LDrinking water filter
MPressure reducer to DIN 1988-2, Dec. 1988 issue
NNon-return valve/pipe separator
OCold water connection at connection set (accesso-
ries)
Combination inlet group
Combines elements A, M and N
■Pressure reducing valve
This must be installed near the cylinder. The cold
water supply to any mixer taps/showers must be
taken from the cold water tapping of this valve to
ensure balanced hot and cold pressures. This valve
is factory set to ensure the correct operating pres-
sure.
■Non-return valve
This is integral to the pressure-reducing valve to pre-
vent the backflow of hot water towards cold water
draw-off points.
■Cold water expansion relief valve
This safety device is preset at the factory and will
relieve excess cold water pressure resulting from a
fault condition.
Preparing for installation
Preparing for boiler installation (cont.)
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Note
The installation surface must be vertical and level.
250
Ø10
147
497
Fig. 3
1. Mark out the rawl plug holes.
2. Drill 7 10 mm holes and insert the rawl plugs sup-
plied.
Note
The supplied rawl plugs are suitable for the follow-
ing materials:
■Concrete
■Vertically perforated bricks
■Hollow concrete breeze blocks
■Hollow brick and concrete ceilings
■Perforated sand lime bricks
■Solid sand lime bricks
■Natural stone with dense structure
■Porous concrete
■Solid gypsum panels
■Solid concrete breeze blocks
■Solid bricks
3. Fit the wall mounting bracket with the screws sup-
plied.
Installation sequence
Fitting the wall mounting bracket
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Removing the front panel and mounting the boiler
Note
When mounting on a wall, please note: Weight without
packaging is approx. 65 kg.
2x
3.
1.
2.
Fig. 4
1. Undo the screws on the underside of the boiler; do
not remove them completely.
2. Remove front panel.
3. Hook the boiler into the wall mounting bracket.
4. Take the additional type plate from the documenta-
tion supplied with the boiler.
In consultation with the system user, attach the
additional type plate to the outside of the appliance
in a position visible to the flue gas inspector.
Fitting the connections on the water side
For installation of fittings on the heating water
side and DHW side, see separate installation
instructions. !Please note
To prevent appliance damage,
connect all pipework free of load and torque
stress.
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BA DC E
¨
zz
Fig. 5
AHeating flow
BHeating return
CGas connection
DCold water
EDHW
FSafety assembly
Connection on the DHW side
Permiss. operating pressure, cylinder: 10 bar.
Install supplied safety assembly F in the cold water
connection.
No flow limiter is fitted in the cold water supply.
Mounting the connection set
Fig. 6
Installation sequence
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Gas connection
A
Fig. 7
1. Connect the gas shut-off valve to connection A.
2. Carry out a tightness test.
Note
Only use suitable and approved leak detection
agents (EN 14291) and devices for the tightness
test. Leak detection agents with unsuitable constit-
uents (e.g. nitrides, sulphides) can cause material
damage.
Remove residues of the leak detection agent after
testing.
!Please note
Excessive test pressure will damage the
boiler and the gas train.
Max. test pressure 150 mbar (15 kPa). If a
higher pressure is required for tightness
tests, disconnect the boiler and the gas train
from the main supply pipe. Undo the fitting.
3. Purge the gas line.
Condensate drain connection
A
Fig. 8
■The condensate pipe is connected to the discharge
pipe of the safety valve. The condensate hose sup-
plied meets the temperature requirements that are
part of the CE certification.
■We recommend connecting the condensate pipe
internally to the domestic waste water system, either
directly or via a tundish.
■If the condensate pipe is routed outside the building,
use a pipe with min. 7 30 mm and protect the pipe
from frost. Avoid long external pipe runs.
!Please note
A frozen condensate pipe can result in faults
and damage to the boiler.
Always protect condensate pipes against frost.
■Observe local building regulations.
Connect condensate pipe A to the public sewage sys-
tem with a constant fall and a pipe vent.
Observe local waste water regulations.
Note
Fill the trap with water before commissioning.
Filling the trap with water
!Please note
During commissioning, flue gas may escape
from the condensate drain.
Always fill the trap with water before commis-
sioning.
Installation sequence
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Fig. 9
Pour at least 0.3 l of water into the flue gas connection.
!Please note
Water in the ventilation air supply can be detri-
mental to the combustion quality.
Never pour water into the external ventilation air
aperture.
Balanced flue connection
Fig. 10
Connect the balanced flue pipe.
During installation and positioning of the flue system,
observe Building Regulations Part L and BS 5440.
Flue system installation instructions
Connecting several Vitodens 111-W to a shared
flue system
Adjust the burner settings of each connected boiler to
match the flue system:
■For shared connection, see page 26.
Note
The back draught safety device available as an acces-
sory must be installed on every boiler.
Do not carry out commissioning until the following
conditions are met:
■Free passage through the flue gas pipes.
■Flue system with positive pressure is gas-tight.
■Inspection port covers checked for secure and tight
seating.
■Apertures for ensuring sufficient combustion air sup-
ply are open and cannot be closed off.
■Applicable regulations on installing and commission-
ing flue systems have been followed.
Danger
Leaking or blocked flue systems or an insuffi-
cient supply of combustion air cause life threat-
ening poisoning due to carbon monoxide in the
flue gas.
Ensure the flue system functions correctly. Aper-
tures for combustion air supply must not be able
to be closed off.
Prevent condensate drainage via a wind protec-
tor.
Installation sequence
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2.
3.
4x
2x
1.
Fig. 11
!Please note
Electronic assemblies can be damaged by elec-
trostatic discharge.
Prior to commencing any work, touch earthed
objects such as heating or water pipes to dis-
charge static loads.
Electrical connections
Information on connecting accessories
When connecting accessories observe the sep-
arate installation instructions provided with
them.
X7
X20
A B
4 3 2 1
OT
C
X21
L N 1 L N?
FE
DX1
96
Fig. 12
AOnly for weather-compensated mode:
Outside temperature sensor (accessories)
BOpenTherm device
Remove jumper D when making this connection.
CConnecting cable
DJumper
EPower supply (230 V, 50 Hz)
See page 16.
FVitotrol 100 or on-site room temperature controller
(230 V switched input)
Remove jumper D when making this connection.
Separate installation instructions
Installation sequence
Opening the control unit enclosure
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Connection accessories
Accessory installation instructions
When connecting a Vitotrol 100 or an OpenTherm
remote control, remove the jumper across L and 1.
Outside temperature sensor (accessories)
1. Fit the outside temperature sensor.
Installation location:
■North or north-westerly wall, 2 to 2.5 m above
ground level. In multi storey buildings, in the
upper half of the second floor.
■Not above windows, doors or vents
■Not immediately below balconies or gutters
■Never render over
■Connection:
2-core lead, length up to 35 m with a cross-sec-
tion of 1.5 mm2
2. Connect the outside temperature sensor to the
connecting cable across terminals 3 and 4 (see
page 15).
Power supply
Regulations and directives
Danger
Incorrectly executed electrical installations can
result in injuries from electrical current and dam-
age to the appliance.
Connect the power supply and implement all
safety measures (e.g. RCD circuit) in accord-
ance with the following regulations:
■IEC 60364-4-41
■IEEE Wiring Regulations
■Connection requirements specified by your
local power supply utility
■Route extra low voltage (ELV) leads < 42 V
and > 42 V/230 V~ cables separately.
■Strip as little of the insulation is possible,
directly before the terminals, and bundle tightly
to the corresponding terminals.
■Secure cables with cable ties.
Install an isolator in the power cable that simultane-
ously isolates all non-earthed conductors from the
power supply with at least 3 mm contact separation.
We also recommend installing an AC/DC-sensitive
RCD (RCD class B ) for DC (fault) currents that
can occur with energy efficient equipment.
Protect the power cable with an external 3 A fuse to
BS 1362.
Danger
Incorrect core assignment can result in serious
injury and damage to the appliance.
Take care not to interchange wires "L1" and "N".
Danger
The absence of component earthing for the sys-
tem can lead to serious injury from electric cur-
rent if an electrical fault occurs.
The appliance and pipework must be connected
to the equipotential bonding of the building.
Installation sequence
Electrical connections (cont.)
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Routing cables/leads and closing the control unit enclosure
!Please note
Connecting cables/leads will be damaged if they
touch hot components.
When routing and securing cables/leads on site,
ensure that the maximum permissible tempera-
ture for these is not exceeded.
1.
2.
Fig. 13
Installation sequence
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Commissioning steps
Inspection steps
Maintenance steps Page
••• 1. Filling the heating system................................................................................................. 19
•2. Adjusting the pre-charge pressure of the diaphragm expansion vessel on the DHW
side (if installed)................................................................................................................. 20
•3. Filling the loading cylinder on the DHW side.................................................................. 21
••• 4. Venting the boiler by flushing........................................................................................... 21
••• 5. Changing the gas type ...................................................................................................... 22
••• 6. Checking the static pressure and supply pressure........................................................ 23
•7. Reducing the maximum heating output........................................................................... 24
•8. Matching the circulation pump rate to the heating system............................................ 25
•9. Matching the burner output to the flue system............................................................... 26
•10. Burner adjustment when connecting multiple flues to a shared flue system.............. 26
•11. Checking the combustion quality..................................................................................... 30
• • 12. Removing the burner ........................................................................................................ 32
• • 13. Checking the burner gasket and burner gauze assembly.............................................. 33
• • 14. Checking and adjusting the electrode............................................................................. 33
• • 15. Cleaning the heat exchanger............................................................................................ 34
• • 16. Checking the condensate drain and cleaning the trap................................................... 35
• • 17. Installing the burner .......................................................................................................... 35
••• 18. Checking the diaphragm expansion vessels and system pressure.............................. 36
• • 19. Checking the safety valve function
••• 20. Checking all connections on the heating water and DHW sides for leaks
••• 21. Checking the flue system for unrestricted flow and tightness
••• 22. Checking the firm seating of electrical connections
••• 23. Checking all gas equipment for tightness at operating pressure ................................ 37
• • 24. Fitting the front panel........................................................................................................ 37
•25. Setting display backlighting for standby......................................................................... 37
•26. Adjusting the display contrast.......................................................................................... 38
•27. Setting the signal tone for display operation.................................................................. 38
•28. Instructing the system user.............................................................................................. 38
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According to EN 1717, as a heat transfer medium for
DHW heating, the heating water must meet fluid cate-
gory ≤ 3. This requirement is met if water of potable
quality is used as heating water. For example, if addi-
tives are used, the additive manufacturer must specify
which category the treated heating water comes under.
!Please note
Unsuitable fill water increases the level of
deposits and corrosion and may lead to appli-
ance damage.
■Flush the heating system thoroughly before
filling.
■Only fill with water of potable quality.
■Fill water with a hardness above 300 ppm
must be softened.
■Special antifreeze suitable for heating systems
can be added to the fill water. The antifreeze
manufacturer must verify its suitability.
AB
CC
Fig. 14
01. Close the gas shut-off valve.
02. Switch ON the power supply.
Information on automatic testing of the flue
gas temperature sensor
The control unit automatically checks the function
of the flue gas temperature sensor as soon as the
power supply is switched on.
Whilst this happens, the internal circulation pump
is briefly switched off.
During the test, also switch off all external circula-
tion pumps in the system.
If the flue gas temperature sensor is positioned
incorrectly, commissioning is cancelled and fault
message A3 is displayed (see "Repairs").
03. Tap MODE.
04. / repeatedly until CONFI flashes.
05. OK to confirm.
"P" is displayed in the l.h. display area. The r.h.
display area flashes.
06. Use / to select "12".
07. OK to confirm.
"1" flashes in the l.h. display area.
08. OK to confirm.
"0" flashes in the r.h. display area.
09. Use / to select "1".
10. OK to confirm.
Filling is activated. The boiler circuit pump is run-
ning; the 3-way diverter valve moves to its centre
position. This function terminates automatically
after 30 min or when the ON/OFF switch is turned
off.
11. Open shut-off valves A and (if fitted) B.
12. Open valves C and fill the heating system. Mini-
mum system pressure > 0.8 bar (80 kPa).
Note
Ensure that the safety valve does not respond
when you are filling the system. If the flow rate
through the safety valve becomes too high, water
may enter the combustion chamber.
13. Close valves C.
14. Remove connection line between the two valves
C. During operation, the connection must be
interrupted.
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Filling the heating system
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B
A
Fig. 15
ATest connector, heating water expansion vessel
BTest connector, DHW expansion vessel (if instal-
led)
Adjust the pre-charge pressure of the DHW-side dia-
phragm expansion vessel (accessories) in accordance
with the system pressure on the DHW side:
DHW-side system pressure (bar) Response pressure, safety valve (bar)
6 8 10
Pre-charge pressure of DHW-side diaphragm
expansion vessel (bar)
2.5 –2.3 2.3
3.0 –2.8 2.8
3.5 – – 3.3
Specification for DHW-side diaphragm expansion ves-
sel (accessories):
■Pre-charge pressure factory setting 5.2 bar
■Max. operating pressure 10 bar
■Max. DHW temperature 65 °C
Commissioning, inspection, maintenance
Adjusting the pre-charge pressure of the diaphragm expansion vessel on the
DHW side (if installed)
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