Moen GEC8 Live User manual

GEC8LIVEOWNER SMANUAL
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Features:
-8loops,5seriesloopsand3separateloop,loop5isstereoloop.
-2dedicatedfootswitch(latchtype).
-IndividualTuner/Muteswitch
-IntuitiveProgramming/Rehearsalmode.
-Tinyfootprint: 460(L)x96(W) x68(H)mm
-P(Stereo)outputs.rogrammableA/B/Y
-RelayTruebypassdesign.
-Instantrecall,nodelayatall.
-80majorpresetsplus80shadowpresets,8(+8)presetsperbank,10banks.
-Powerfulexternalfootswitchwhichcan beprogrammedas
-Eachpresetsendseditablemidiprogramchangenumber(0~127,off)
Besureto read this manualbefore using the productinordertoensuresafeoperation.
Version4.0
2015.1
(MidiEnhancementEdition)
/taptempoinputformostpopularpedalsloop(s)on/offcontroller
ontwomidichannels(1,2).
-Activebanknumberissettablefrom2~10.
-DIN footswitchjack,allowtocontrolupto5channelswitchingofamplifier.

1-Topview
(2)MUTE/PGM(FS)
(1) ②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧
(3)BANK/MIDI(PC#)
InRECALLmode,shortlypressthisbuttonwill mutethe INPUTandswitchguitartoTUNER.
InRECALLmode,theseswitchesrecall preset1~8separately.
InRECALLmode,thisswitchchangesthebanknumber.
(4)SEGMENTLEDDISPLAY
ItisaBANKnumberindicator(RECALLmode),MODEincidator(REHEARSALmode),or tens”
Indicator(MIDIeditmode),oroptionsindicator(SHADOWeditmode).
InREHEARSALmode,theseswitchesengage/bypassloop1~loop8individually.
InPROGRAMMINGmode,shortlypressthisbuttonwillturn on/offOUTLand OUTR,
(5)FS1/FS2
Footswitch1/2indicator,itlightsupwhenfootswitch1/2jackisinternallyopen(tip/sleeve).
(9)Indicatorsof②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧
Thecorresponding indicatorlightsonwhenispushed. ②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧
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InPROGRAMMINGmode,shortlypressthisbuttonwillturn on/offfootswitchFS1andFS2.
ThesequenceisR(on)L(off)-R(off)L(on)-R&L(on)-R&L(off)”
InMIDIeditmode,MUTErepresents ones”9ofamidiPC#.
InMIDIeditmode,itchangesthe tens”ofamidiPC#.
(6)MIDI
TheindicatorflasheswhenMIDIeditmodeorSHADOWeditmodeisactivated.
(7)OUTR
OUTPUTRindicator,OUTRoutputs/mutessignalwhentheindicatorison/off.
(8)OUTL
OUTPUTLindicator,OUTLoutputs/mutessignalwhentheindicatorison/off.
InSHADOWeditmode,itchangestheoptionnumberofthemidiCC#andFS1.
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InMIDIeditmode,theseswitchesselect ones”ofaPC#,refertosection5.3.
InSHADOWeditmode,theseswitchesselectoptions,refertosection5.4.1.
InSHADOWeditmode,MUTEconfirmsanoption.
Initialactivebanknumber:HoldBANKswitchthenpowerup GEC8live,thebanknumberstartsto
blink,pressBANKtochooseactivebanknumber(2~10),holdBANKfor2stofinalizeinitialization.

2-Rearview
②DCIN
MIDIOUT
⑤BUFOUT
Powerinput,workswithnegativecentershouldbeabove350mA.DC9Vofwhichthecapacity
ThisjackoutputsmidiPC#(program/patchchange)andCC#(ControlChange).
ThejackoutputsbufferedsignalwhenguitarisconnectedtoBUFIN.
⑦LOOP1~4
S1~4is SEND”ofloop1~4,R1~4is RETURN”ofloop1~4,thefourloopsonlysupportmono
guitarpedals,loop1toloop4areinternallyconnected,thesignalchainis
BUFIN(NBUFIN)->loop1->loop2->loop3->loop4
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④BUFIN
③TUNER
Bufferedinputjack,signalviathisjackisfedtoabuffercircuitpriortobeingsenttotheloops.
ThisjackswitchestoBUFINorNBUFINwhenGEC8ismuted,normallyitconnectstoatuner.
⑥NBUFIN
Non-bufferedinputjack.
⑧LOOP5
Thisisamono SEND”andstereo RETURN”loop,S5is SEND”,R5Ris RightReturn”,
R5Lis LeftReturn”,loop5isafterloop4andpriortoOUTRandOUTL.
⑨OUTR
OutputRIGHTjack,connectstoR5Rofloop5,OUTRcanbe shutoff inProgrammingmode.
⑩OUTL
OutputLEFTjack,connectstoR5Lofloop5,OUTLcanbeshutoffinProgrammingmode.
FOOTSWITCH
ThisjackcombineFS1,FS2,SEND6,SEND7,SEND8,couldbeusedforampswithcing.
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Withthe FS6cable(providedseparately),thisjackcanbeconnectedtotheFSINjackonthe
SHADOWpedal,whichallowsusertoconfigurethe channelswitchingfordifferentamplifiers.

⑭LOOP6
⑬LOOP7
SHADOW
Separateloop,refertoloop8.
Separateloop,refertoloop8.
Connecttotheexternalshadowswitch,recallSHADOWpresets,refertosection5.4
⑯FS1(TRS)
⑮FS2
Dedicatedlatchingfootswitch,stereojack,itstipand sleevearenormallyclosed(indicatoroff),
itsringconnectstothetipofFS2.Thisjackcanconnecteithermonoorstereocable,withstereo
cableitworksasatwo-buttonfootswitch(FS1andFS2combinesintothestereojack).*
*IfFS1worksasTRSfootswitch,ensure thereisnocableconnectedtoFS2jack.
Dedicatedlatchingfootswitch,monojack,itstipandsleevearenormallyclosed(indicatoroff).
⑱EARTHSTUD
Connect GEC8enclosuretoearth.
⑫LOOP8
Itisaseparateloopwhichisolatesfromotherloops,IN8is input”oftheloop,S8is send”,R8is
return”,OUT8is output”ofthisloop.S8alsoworksasN.C.(NormallyClose)latchingfootswitch
whichisabletoswitchampchannel,OUT8alsoworksasN.O.(NormallyOpen)latchingfootswitch
4-Midi
(NBUFIN)
3-Signal Path
LOOP1 LOOP2 LOOP3 LOOP4 LOOP5(TRS)
TUNER
LOOP8
IN8
OUT8
OUTPUT(TRS)
BUFIN
LOOP7
IN7
OUT7LOOP6
IN6
OUT6
GEC8livetransfertwotypesofmidimessages,ProgramChange(PC#)andControlChange(CC#).
InRecallmode(page5),eachmajorpresetsendstwoPC#(0~127oroff)ontwomidichannels(1,2).
Theshadowpreset(recalledbyexternalfootswitch)sendspre-programmedCC#whichcontrol
taptempo,FXon/off,volumeboostlevel.Checkmore detail insection5.4.
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5-MODESWAPPING
GEC8liveworks in4modes,RecallMode,RehearsalMode,MidiEditMode,ShadowEditMode.
Recall Mode
RehearsalMode
ShadowEditMode
Midi EditMode
Hold BANK”HoldExt.Footswitch
Hold MUTE”

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5-Operation
GEC8liveentersRECALLmodeafter power up,switchrecallsmajorpreset
1~8, thebanknumber blinkswhenBANK switchispressedtill anewRRESETis
recalled.GEC8livehave6banks, 48 majorpresetsintotal.InRECALLmode,
MUTEswitchmutestheINPUTof seriesloopsandswitchtheguitarto TUNERjack.
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5.1-RECALLMODE
InRecall mode, holdMUTEfor2secondsGEC8liveenters REHEARSALmode, the
segmentLED shows “P”, thisisalsoprogrammingmode, loop1~8canbe
engaged/bypassedindividuallybypressingFS1/FS2beopened/closedby
pressingBANKswitch, OUTL/OUTRbeturnedon/off bypressingMUTEswitch,
alltheseoperationsinstantlybehave soyouhear what yousee, holdMUTEswitch
fortwosecondsagaintheswitcher getsbacktoRECALLmodeandallthestatusof
loops(1~8), footswitch(FS1andFS2) andoutput (L/R) will beautomaticallystored
into the activepreset. For example, if Bank1Preset 2needstobeprogrammed,
firstlyrecallBank1Preset2, andholdMUTE toenterREHEARSALmode,setloops,
output L/R,footswitches, holdMUTEagaintofinishtheprogramming.
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5.2-REHEARSALMODE
InRecall mode, hold"BANK"for2 seconds,GEC8liveentersMIDIEDITmode,
thebluemidi led flashes, the segmentLEDshows tens(0~9,A, b, C,off)
oftheCh1 PC#,theledof represent theones"1~8",theext. footswitchLED
represents"0", theMUTEledrepresents"9",theavailablePC#rangeis"0~127,off ".
Ch1 midi PC#example:
-segment LED"",ledon, thePC#is"31"(3*10+1)
-segment LED"", ext. footswitchledon, thePC#is"80"(8*10+0)
-segment LED"", MUTEledon, thePC#is"109"(10*10+9)
-segment LED"",ledon, thePC#is"126"(12*10+6)
-segment LED"", allledoff,thePC# is"off".
ShortlypushBANKwillchangethetens, thesegment LEDblinks, picktheonesby
pushingorMUTEor theext. footswitch. Oncetheonesispickedit goestothe
2ndmidichannel,thesegment LEDshowsthetenswitha “dot”underthenumber.
Edit theCh2PC#inthesameway, theCh2PC#rangeis"0~127,off ".
Ch2 midi PC#example:
-segment LED"",ledon, thePC#is"21"(2*10+1)
-segment LED"", theext. footswitchledon,thePC#is"80"(8*10+0)
-segment LED"", allledoff,thePC# is"off".
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⑥
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5.3-MIDI EDITMODE

Connect ext. footswitchtoEMOTION, inRecall mode,holdthe ext. footswitchfor
2seconds, GEC8liveentersSHADOWEDITmode, boththeMIDIledandFS1
ledstart toflashsimultaneously, thesegment LEDshowsCC#options(0~10, off).
InSHADOWedit mode, presstoselect/deselect theshadowloop.
Theshadowpreset isanadditional presetuponitsmajorpreset, it alwaysworks
together withitsactivemajor preset.Therule is, theshadowpreset loopdoes
ExclusiveOR(XOR) operationwiththemajorloop preset, what isitfor?
(B-BANK, P-PRESET)
Tutorial 1: Masterbypass
B1P1, Major preset:loop1,2,3on
B1P1, Shadowpreset :loop1,2,3on
Ext. footswitchoff: loop1,2,3on,on: Masterbypass.
Tutorial 2: Engage/bypasscertainloop(s)
B1P2, Major preset:loop1, 2on(overdrive,distortion)
B1P2, Shadowpreset :loop3,4on(delay,reverb)
Ext. footswitchoff: OD+DIST(loop1,2),on:OD+DIST+Delay+Reverb(loop1,2,3,4)
Tutorial 3: rhythm/ solotoggle
B1P3, Major preset:loop1, 3on(overdrive, chorus)
B1P3, Shadowpreset: loop1,2,3,4, 5on(overdrive, distortion,chrus,delay, boost)
Ext. footswitchoff: OD+CH(loop1,3),on:DIST+DELAY+BOOST(loop2,4,5)
5.4.1ShadowLooppreset
~⑧
5.4-SHADOWEDITMODE
OPTION 0 1 2 3
MIDI CC# NULL
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TapTempo
Line6,Eventide TapTempo Strymon,Eventide FXON/OFF Line6,Eventide FXON/OFF Strymon,Eventide
Boost+1dB
Timeline Boost+2dB
Timeline Boost+3dB
Timeline Level+1dB Mobius Level+2dB Mobius Level+3dB Mobius
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Theext. switchalsoprovidespre-programmedoptions(0~9, off) of midi CC#(on
channel 1), pushBANKtochangetheoption, pushMUTEtoconfirmtheoption.
MIDI CC#MAP:
5.4.2ShadowMidi preset
Tutorial 1: StrymonTapTempoinput
B2P1,Major preset:loop1,2,3on
B2P1,Shadowpreset: loop1~8off, MIDI CC#option1, Strymon
Ext. footswitchoff:sendtaptempo, on:sendtaptempo.
Note:ensuremidicableisconnectedbetweenGECandStrymon
XOR TRUTH TABLE
major shadow
ext.switchoff
preset preset
ext.switchon
(0:loopoff,1:loopon)
0 0 00
0 1 10
1 0 11
0 0 00
1 1 01

Tutorial 2: PersistStrymonTimelineTrails(SpillOver)
B2P2,Major preset:whatever, keepTimelinealwaysoninthesignal chain.
B2P2,Shadowpreset: loop1~8off, MIDI CC#option3(Strymonon/off)
Ext. footswitchon: engagetimelinevia. midi, off: bypasstimelinevia.midi.
Note:ensuremidicableisconnectedbetweenGECandStrymon, theparameter
“persist”(delaymachines)needstobeturnedonintheTimeline.
Tutorial 3: SoloBoost
B2P3,Major preset:loop1,3on(overdrive,chorus)
B2P3,Shadowpreset: loop1,2(distortion),3, 4(timeline)on,option5(boost+2dB)
Ext. footswitchoff:OD+CHORUS, on: DIST+Timeline(boost+2dB).
Note:ensuremidicableisconnectedbetweenGECandStrymon
Aftertheshadowmidipresetisconfirmed, itenters shadowfootswitchoptions,
thesegmentledshowsthe optionnumberwithadot.
Theshadowfootswitchpresetallowsuser tocustomizeFS1(footswitch)function,
Itprovide5options,
5.4.3Shadowfootswitchpreset
Option 0. 1. 2. 3.
FS1 NULL
Dimensions...........................................460(L)x96(W)X68(H)mm
Weight...............................................................................1500g
PowerSupply...........................................DC9V(NegativeCenter)
CurrentDrain...........................................................max. 350mA
Max. NBUFInputVp-p.......................................................... 30V
Max. BUFInputVp-p.............................................................3V
6-Specifications
Momentary
NormalClose Momentary NormalOpen
Latch
NormalOpen
Latch
NormalClose
Note:ifFS1isset tooptionother thanNULL, themajorpreset willlosethecontrol
toFS1.
Tutorial1: TapTempoinputof BOSSDD-20
B3 P1,Majorpreset: loop1,3on(overdrive, DD-20)
B3 P1,Shadowpreset : loop1~8off, FS1option2(momentaryN.C)
Ext. footswitchoff:sendtaptempo,on: sendtaptempo
Note:Connect FS1totheCTLPEDALjackofDD-20,setCTLPEDALastapinput.
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CH2
CH1 CH3
Tutorial1-7pedals&AMPChannelSwitching
FX1 FX2 FX3 FX4 FX5
FX6 FX7
CH1/CH2/CH3-Ampfootswitchjacks(mono).
IN-Inputofamp.
Signalchain:
Guitar->buffer->loop1->.....loop5->OUTL->(patchcable)->loop7->(patchcable)->loop8->AMP
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Footswitch(TRS)
Footswitch(TRS)-StereoFootswitchJack
IN-Inputofamp.
TIP
RINGSLEEVE
TIP RINGSLEEVE
Stereocable
Stereo patch cable
FS1/FS2/S6(N.C.)arefor threeAMPchannelswitching
IfAMPiswithTRSlatchingfootswitch,connectstereopatchcablefromFS1(GEC8)toAMPfootswitch.

Tutorial2-7monopedals,1stereopedal(withmidi)&2amplifiers
FX1 FX2 FX3 FX4
FX5(Stereo)
FX6 FX7 FX8
Signalchain:
Guitar ->buffer ->FX6->FX7->FX8->FX1->FX2->FX3->FX4->FX5(stereo)
MidiCable
CH
AMP1 AMP2
CH
CH-monofootswitchjackforchannelswitching.
IN-Inputofamp.
AMP1
AMP2
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EXT.FS

Tutorial3-5frontpedals,3pedalsinAMPloop,AMPwithmidi
FX1 FX2 FX3 FX4
FX5(Stereo)
FX6 FX7 FX8
Signalchain:
Guitar ->buffer ->FX1->FX2->FX3->FX4->FX5->AMPPreamp->FX6->FX7->FX8->Power AMP
MIDIRETURNSEND
②
MIDI IN
② MIDITHRU
PedalsinAMPloop
10
AmpchannelsandFX5arecontrolledbymidi.patchof
Moretutorialsarecomingup......
EXT.FS