TURNTIDE Hub 7 User manual

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TURNTIDE FOR BUILDINGS
Hub 7
Automation Install Guide

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TABLE OF CONTENTS
Contents
1. Product Overview 3
1.1. Turntide Hub 7 3
1.1.1. Dimensions 3
1.1.2. Left View 3
1.1.3. Right View 4
1.2. Turntide VRF Adapter 5
1.2.1 Dimensions 5
1.3. Turntide Enclosure 5
1.3.1. Parts List 5
1.3.2. Enclosure Drawings 6
2. Installation Requirements 7
2.1. Location Requirements 7
2.2. Environmental Conditions 7
3. Installation Instructions 7
3.1. Mounting the Turntide Enclosure 7
3.2. Installation - Hub Only 7
3.3. Connecting Power 8
3.3.1. Power Requirements 8
3.3.2. Powering with Turntide Enclosure 8
3.3.3. Powering Hub Only 9
3.4. Connecting Internet 9
3.4.1. Internet Connectivity 10
3.4.2. Connecting Ethernet with Enclosure 10
3.4.3. Connecting Ethernet Hub only 10
3.4.4. Using a Cell Modem 10
4. Connecting Equipment 11
4.1. IP Network 11
4.1.1. What Can Be Connected 11
4.1.2. How to Connect 11
4.1.2.3. Hub 7 11
4.1.3. Limitations / Cable Specications 11
4.2. RS-485 Network 11
4.2.1. What Can Be Connected 11
4.2.2. Wiring 12
4.2.3. How to Terminate 12
4.2.3.4. Turntide Hub 7 12
4.2.4. Limitations / Cable Specications 12
4.3. USB Network 13
4.3.1. What Can Be Connected 13
4.3.2. How to Connect 13

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4.3.3. Limitations / Cable Specications 13
5. Installing Turntide VRF Adapter 14
5.1. Connecting Power 14
5.2. Network Conguration & Connecting to the Hub 14
5.2.1 Network & Cable Limitations 14
6. Initial Conguration (Quick Start Guide) 15
6.1. Connecting to the Hub Locally 15
6.2. Logging In 15
6.3. Initial Conguration / IP Setup 16
6.4. Conrming Cloud Connection 17
7. Turntide Stratup Troubleshooting Guide 17
7.1 IP Network Issues 17
7.2 VRV Discovery Issues 21
7.3 BACnet Discovery Issues 23

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1. Product Overview
1.1. Turntide Hub 7
1.1.1. Dimensions
Dimensions in mm
1.1.2. Left View
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2 1
35
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# Label Description
1 COM 1 RS-232/422/485 Connects to an RS-485 network. Requires an
RS232/RS485 converter
2 COM 2 RS-232/422/485 Connects to an RS-485 network. Requires an
RS232/RS485 converter
3 USB 1
4 USB 2
5 USB 3
6 USB 4
7 MicroSIM For SIM Cards
8 Power Button Used to power on/off the hub
PIN RS232 RS422 RS485
1DCD TX- TX-/RX-
2RX TX+ TX+/RX+
3 TX RX+ NC
4 NC RX- NC
5GND NC NC
6 NC NC NC
7RTS NC NC
8CTS NC NC
9 RI/PWR NC/PWR NC/PWR
Connecting Pins for
COM 1 and COM 2
D-SUB Conn. 9P 90D(M) DIP
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1.1.3. Right View
# Label Description
1 Chassis Grounding Screw Common system, grounding point
2 Display Port For troubleshooting purposes only
3 IP1 Connect an Ethernet (RJ45) cable to gain network access.
4 IP2 Connect an Ethernet (RJ45) cable to gain network access.
5 CAN Bus*
Serial communication bus standard that allows microcontrollers and devices to
communicate with each other.
*CAN Bus is not supported at this time.
6 Terminal Block Power Connect a 10-30 VDC power connector to provide power to your system
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1.2. Turntide VRF Adapter
The Turntide VRF adapter is used to connect VRF systems directly to the Turntide Hub for monitoring and control.
1.2.1 Dimensions
4.13” x 3.54” x 1.00“
1.3. Turntide Enclosure
The prefabricated Turntide Enclosure is designed to safely hold Turntide equipment and accessories for easy installation
and networking. It is recommended the panels are used for all jobs.
1.3.1. Parts List
NEMA Type 1 / IP 30 Enclosure
5-Port 10/100Mbps Switch
7-Port USB Hub
24VDC DIN Rail Power Supply
DIN Rail Mount AC Receptacle
DIN Rail 120VAC circuit breaker

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1.3.2. Enclosure Drawings
Note: Cradlepoint Cell router (if being used) should be mounted externally of the panel in a location with good cell service.
LARGE ENCLOSURE
MDR-60-24
USB HUB
(WHEN
NEEDED)
MSA
ROUTER
ONLOGIC K410
VRF ADAPTER
VRF ADAPTER
VRF ADAPTER
11.63
18.03
16.64
18.88
9.89
4.0000
3.5000
VRF ADAPTER
4.0000
3.5000
VRF ADAPTER
4.0000
3.5000
VRF ADAPTER
ONLOGIC K410
UT4
GND
UT4
GND
UT2.5UT2.5UT2.5UT2.5UT2.5UT2.5 UT2.5UT2.5UT2.5UT2.5 UT2.5UT2.5
ROUTER, USB HUB AND ETHERNET SWITCH
MAY RELOCATE TO THIS SPACE WHEN TOO
MANY SERIAL TERMINALS ARE REQUIRED
SERIAL TERMINALS FOR
HUB AND VRF ADAPTERS
DC POWER TERMINALS INCOMING LINE POWER
TERMINALS
IMACP01
N
L
L
N
SMALL ENCLOSURE

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2. Installation Requirements
It is recommended that the Turntide Hub is always installed inside of a Turntide Enclosure or similar. Be sure to install the
Turntide Hub in a location that meets the requirements in 2.1 and 2.2 below.
2.1. Location Requirements
The Turntide Hub must be mounted in a clean, indoor area that is free from dust, water and direct sunlight. If not mounted
in a panel, the Hub should be in an environmentally maintained communications room.
2.2. Environmental Conditions
Maximum Vibration 5 Hz with 0.0002 G2/HZ
Altitude -15.20 m to 5,000 m (-50 ft to 16,404 ft)
Temperature -30 C to 70 C (-22 F to 158 F)
Humidity 10% to 90% (non-condensing) @ 40C
3. Installation Instructions
3.1. Mounting the Turntide Enclosure
The Turntide Enclosure is easily mounted on the wall using the four pre-drilled mounting holes located on the back of the enclosure.
Note: For proper installation all four mounting points must be used
Note: Make sure all four mounting points are properly attached to the wall using correctly rated wall anchors or expansion anchors.
Warning: Please insure the wall mounting locations are rated to hold the entire enclosure.
3.2. Installation - Hub Only
Turntide 7 Hubs purchased without an enclosure can be mounted using the included wall mount.

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3.3. Connecting Power
3.3.1. Power Requirements
Warning: Electrical work is dangerous and should only be completed by a skilled and qualied person. All electrical
procedures must be carried out with the power supply shut off. Do not turn the power supply on until all
connections are made. Not doing so may result in electric shock.
3.3.2. Powering with Turntide Enclosure
The Turntide Enclosure is shipped with all required equipment power supplies and wiring completed. A 120VAC power feed
is required to be wired into the supplied breaker.

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3.3.3. Powering Hub Only
12 VDC - 57 VDC
3.4. Connecting Internet
The Turntide Hub requires an active internet connection to connect to the Turntide Cloud. An ethernet
connection to an active internet line is required at the installation location to be connected to the Turntide
Hub. When using a local LAN connection the below port congurations are required to be completed by the
Network Administrator.
List of Ports to be Opened by IT
Destination Protocol Port
Required Egress Turntide Cloud MQTT TCP/8883
Required Egress Turntide Cloud SST TCP/3199
Required Egress Turntide Cloud HTTPS TCP/443

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Required Egress Congurable DNS UDP/53
Required Egress Congurable NTP UDP/123
Important Egress Protocol Specic HTTP TCP/80
3.4.1. Internet Connectivity
The Turntide Hub requires a stable internet connection to connect to the Turntide Cloud. Depending on the planned
internet connection the below is required at the installation location.
Local Area Network: Ethernet cable connected to the building network
Cellular Network: Strong 4g cellular network signal
When connecting via local area network, the below port requirments must be congured for proper communication with
the Turntide Cloud Application. Refer to the table in 3.4 above, “List of Ports to be Opened by IT.”
3.4.2. Connecting Ethernet with Enclosure
The Turntide Enclosure ships with a pre congured
5-port data switch. Connect an ethernet cable (RJ45
plug) into any available port on the supplied switch.
3.4.3. Connecting Ethernet Hub only
When not using a Turntide Enclosure or switch an ethernet cable must be connected directly to the hub.
Turntide Hub 7
The Turntide Hub 7 has two ethernet ports, LAN 1 and
Lan 2. LAN 1 is the primary connector: connect the
ethernet cable (RJ45) to LAN 1.
3.4.4. Using a Cell Modem
When using a supplied cellular modem an ethernet cable must connect the cell modem to the Turntide hub using one of
the methods outlined in 3.3.1 and 3.3.2.

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4. Connecting Equipment
This section outlines how to connect compatible building equipment to the Turntide Hub. There are several methods of
connection available.
4.1. IP Network
4.1.1. What Can Be Connected
Turntide supports multiple protocols over ethernet. Any devices supporting these protocols can be connected over IP to
the Turntide hub.
Supported IP Protocol
BACnet IP Modbus TCP NOAA Weather
Open ADR Generic REST
4.1.2. How to Connect
4.1.2.3. Hub 7
Turntide Hub 7 has two ethernet ports. Networked IP devices should be connected to the appropriate ethernet port to
match the hub’s conguration. By default LAN A port is used. If multiple IP devices are to be connected a network switch
is required. Use of the LAN B Port is also allowed.
The Turntide enclosure ships with a precongured 5 port switch for IP connections. By default, LAN A is congured for a
static IP address of 192.168.1.100 and LAN B is congured for DHCP. Either can be used to connect to the Hub 7.
4.1.3. Limitations / Cable Specications
Allowed cable types Ethernet Cat 5e, Cat 6, Cat 6a, Cat 7 or Cat 7a
Termination type RJ45
Maximum cable length 100 m (328 ft)
4.2. RS-485 Network
4.2.1. What Can Be Connected
The Turntide hubs have multiple RS-485 network ports that can be used to connect building devices. Each RS-485

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network can only be used for a single protocol at a time.
Supported Protocols
• Trane Comm4
• BACnet MSTP
• BACnet IP
• NOAA Weather
• Modbus TCP
• Modbus RTU
• OpenADR
• Generic REST
4.2.2. Wiring
RS-485 networks must be run as a daisy chain between equipment. Star and Spoke connections are not allowed and
can cause network communication issues.
The Turntide hub can be positioned at any point along the network though it is highly recommended the hub be placed at
the physical end of line for best network performance.
Note: The shield wire must be connected along the daisy chain for proper functionality
Note: A single common cable type must be used along the entire network. Splicing of different cable types can lead to network faults.
RS485 Connections
(BACnet MSTP, Modbus)
4.2.3. How to Terminate
When using RS-485 ensure all terminations are secure with no crossed wires.
Note: The RS-485 cable’s shield should be connected to earth ground at one end only
4.2.3.4. Turntide Hub 7
There are no bias or termination switches on Turntide Hub 7.
4.2.4. Limitations / Cable Specications
Allowed cable types Twisted pair(1 or 2) shielded cable with braid and foil
Cable size 24 - 22 AWG

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Termination type Daisy Chain
Maximum cable length 1200 m (4000 ft)
Maximum devices Electrical load and protocol dependent
4.3. USB Network
4.3.1. What Can Be Connected
The USB ports on the Turntide Hubs can be used to connect Turntide VRF Adapters and USB adapters.
4.3.2. How to Connect
USB devices can be plugged directly into the available USB ports on the optional 7 port USB Hub expander.
When using the Turntide enclosure, the HUB 7 can support up to 4 USB devices. IF additional USB devices are
needed they should be plugged into the optional 7 port USB Hub available from Turntide.
4.3.3. Limitations / Cable Specications
Allowed cable types USB
Maximum cable length 5 m (16 ft)
Maximum devices 1 per a USB port

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5. Installing Turntide VRF Adapter
5.1. Connecting Power
The Turntide VRF Adapter is powered over USB. It does not require external power. Do not connect 24 VDC power to the
Turntide VRF Adapter unless instructed to by Turntide support.
5.2. Network Conguration & Connecting to the Hub
Connect the F1F2 bus directly to the D-Net terminal connection on the VRF Adapter. The VRF adapter
connects to the Turntide Hub using a USB A-B cable. Up to 4 Turntide VRF Adapters can be connected to a
single hub. Customer’s can increase the number of VRF adapters per HUB 7 to a total of 7 using the 7 port USB
Hub expander option available from Turntide.
Note: a single F1F2 network can be connected to the VRF adapter.
5.2.1 Network & Cable Limitations
Allowed cable types Stranded, Non-shielded, Two Conductor
Cable size 18 - 16 AWG
Termination type Daisy Chain
Maximum cable length Outdoor unit - indoor unit: <= 3280 ft (total wiring length: 6560 ft)
Maximum FCUs (per network) 64
We recommend customers follow Daiking wiring guidelines when wiring Dnet devices to the Turntide VRF
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6. Initial Conguration (Quick Start Guide)
6.1. Connecting to the Hub Locally
With the hub mounted, power the panel/hub.
Verify LED power lights are illuminated on the Turntide Hub
Connect an ethernet cable from a PC or laptop to a free port on the ethernet switch.
Congure the computer’s IP address as follows:
• IP address: 192.168.1.101
• Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
• Router/Default Gateway:192.168.1.1
6.2. Logging In
Using a web browser on the computer, log into the Turntide Hub (https://192.168.1.100:5000) with the default admin
credentials.
If prompted to accept the security certicate select Advanced > Go to Website

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6.3. Initial Conguration / IP Setup
1. Select System > Network from the navigation bar
2. Select IP interface (IP1 primary interface)
3. Disable DHCP and congure the elds with the assigned IP address
4. Select Save and Restart Now to complete the setup

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6.4. Conrming Cloud Connection
While still directly connected to the Turntide Hub, use a web browser to access the hub at the newly assigned IP address
(https://<IP address entered in section 6.3>:5000)
Once logged in connection to the Turntide Cloud can be veried from the main page.
Note: Your computer must be on the same subnetwork as the hub for connection. If the any of the rst three segments of the hub’s IP
address were changed, you must adjust your computer’s IP address to match.
7. Turntide Stratup Troubleshooting Guide
This guide contains rst steps to check to help you through issues starting up and connecting devices to the Turntide
Hub. If after checking this guide your issue persists please contact support@turntide.com.
7.1 IP Network Issues
Can’t Direct Connect to the Hub
Incorrect Username & Password
If you are able to access the Hub UI login page but unable to login, you may be using the wrong username & password.
The Hub UI does not use the same user login as issues for the Turntide web and mobile application. If you do not know
the Hub UI login, talk to your Turntide account manager.
Incorrect IP Address
To directly connect to the hub, the IP address on your computer must be on the same IP subnet as the Turntide Hub. At
default this is 192.168.1.xxx /24. Check to make sure that you have set a static IP address of 192.168.1.xxx (suggested:
192.168.1.105). These guides will show you how:
• Windows: https://www.hellotech.com/guide/for/how-to-set-static-ip-windows-10
• MAC: https://www.macinstruct.com/node/550
Wrong Web URL
When rst shipped Turntide Hub is accessed at its default address from any major web browser by entering the url
https://192.168.1.100:5000. You must be directly connected to the hub and have https at the beginning and :5000 at the
end. (Note: If there are two hubs in the Turntide panel the second hub can be reached at https://192.168.1.101:5000)
If the Hub’s IP address has been congured already for the site, the hub can be reached at https://<Hub_IP_
Address>:5000 where <Hub_IP_Address> is the IP address congured.

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Faulty Physical Connection
To access the Turntide Hub directly the computer you are using must be connected to the Turntide Hub with an ethernet
cable. One end must be plugged into your computer and the other end either directly into the IP 1 ethernet port on the
Turntide Hub or into a network switch that is also connected to IP1 on the Turntide Hub. Check that all ethernet cables
are properly plugged in and the cables are not faulty.
Testing the Connection
If you can still not reach the Turntide Hub UI, test the connection with a ping. In windows, open the Command Prompt
program or on Mac open Terminal. Enter the line:
ping 192.168.1.100
Note: if the IP address of the hub has been changed enter the Hub’s IP as opposed to 192.168.1.100.
If the response line reads host unreachable or Request timeout the connection is not active. If it says 64 bytes from
192.168.1.100 and lists a time=xx.xxx ms then the connection is active. Reopen your web browser, double check the web
address and try again
Turntide Hub is Not Connecting to the Turntide Cloud
Internet via Building LAN
IT Firewall
The Turntide Hub requires an outbound connection on several ports to communicate with the Turntide Cloud. If there is
no active connection with the Turntide Cloud, conrm with the IT administrator that the below port settings have been
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Item Description Protocol Port
Required Egress Turntide Cloud MQTT TCP/8883
Required Egress Turntide Cloud SST TCP/3199
Required Egress Turntide Cloud HTTPS TCP/443
Required Egress Congurable DNS UDP/53
Required Egress Congurable NTP UDP/123
Important Egress Protocol Specic HTTP TCP/80
Incorrect Network Conguration
To communicate on the local LAN network the Turntide Hub must be congured with a correct IP address. This address
must be supplied by the IT administrator. Directly connect to the Hub UI and conrm the IP address entered matches
what has been specied by the IT administrator. If it does not, update the IP address, Gateway and Subnet information,
set DHCP to disabled. Save and restart the hub.
Faulty Physical Connection
Check to make sure all physical connections are secure and correct
• Ethernet cable connected to IP1 on the Turntide hub or to a switch that is also connected to IP1 on the Hub
• Ethernet is connected to the correct building network switch and port. This can be conrmed with the IT
administrator
• All cables are connected and undamaged
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