Vogt P-24AL User manual

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P-24AL
&
P-34AL
TUBE-ICE®
MACHINE
Service Manual
$5000

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NOTICE
This manual is the property of the owner of this particular Tube-Ice®
machine.
Model #____________________ Serial #____________________.
It is to be left on the premises with this machine at all times. After start-up,
it should be stored in a safe place where it can be readily available when
needed for future reference in maintaining troubleshooting or servicing.
Failure to comply with this notice will result in unnecessary inconvenience
and possible additional expenses.
This manual is intended as an informational tool for the installation,
operation, maintenance, troubleshooting, and servicing of this equipment.
If an existing situation calls for additional information not found herein, we
suggest that you contact your distributor first. If further assistance or
information is needed, please feel free to contact the factory at 502-635-
3000 or FAX at 502-635-3024 or 502-634-0479.
IMPORTANT: The Warranty Registration/Start-Up Report found in the
front of this manual is to be completed and returned to the factory promptly
after the official start-up.
Please return to: Vogt Ice, LLC
1000 W. Ormsby, Suite 19
Louisville, KY 40210
Attn. SuperCare Department

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Vogt Ice, LLC Tube-IceMachine
MID & LARGE MACHINE WARRANTY REGISTRATION/START-UP REPORT
MUST COMPLETE AND RETURN TO INITIATE WARRANTY
Machine Model No. ________________________________ Serial No. ____________________________________________
Installed at: ____________________________________________________________( )_______________________________________
Company Name Phone
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________
Address City State Zip
______________________________________________________________________________________________________
Installed by: ___________________________________________________________( )________________________/____/________
Company Name Phone Date
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________
Address City State Zip
Describe any damage to machine/repairs made: _____________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Start up by: ___________________________________________________________( )________________________/____/_________
Company Name Phone Date
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________
Address
Name of person starting up machine: ____________________________________________________________________________________
PRE START-UP CHECK
CHECK
Service Manual on hand
Machine room suitable 50F minimum, 110F maximum
Proper power supply, actual voltage _______________, _________________, _________________ (machine not running)
Compressor crankcase heater on 12 hour minimum
Necessary hand valves opened as required
Solenoid valve stems in auto position
System leak checked/tight
Auxiliary equipment overloads wired into control circuit
Compressor oil level _______ (1/4 glass min.)
All water distributors in place (visually inspected)
Water supply and drain lines installed and connected properly
Compressor, pump, cutter and other motor direction of rotation correct
Make-up water float valve adjusted properly
Hour meter in control panel connected OPERATION CHECK
Machine charged with refrigerant lbs.______________ Actual voltage ____________ , _______________, ________________(machine running)
Ambient temp. _____ F Fan cycles On _____ Off _____ Tower water in _____F out ______ F
Comp motor RLA _____________, _____________, _____________, Actual _____________, _____________, _____________,
Pump RLA _____________, _____________, _____________, Actual _____________, _____________, _____________
Cutter motor RLA _____________, _____________, _____________, Actual _____________, _____________, _____________
Suction pressure end of freezing _______, end of harvest _______ Discharge pressure end of freezing ___________, end of harvest __________
Evaporator/suction line frost _____________________________ Receiver liquid level operating ___________________
Test
Cycle
Water
Temp
Freeze Time
Min/Sec
Harvest Time
Min/Sec
First Ice Out
Min/Sec
All Ice Out
Min/Sec
Avg. Hole
Size
Ice Lb. Per
Harvest
Ice Lb. Per
Day
#1
#2
#3
#4
Note: Ice lb. per day can be found by: ice lb. per harvest x 1440
(freeze time + harvest time)
The machine operated satisfactorily for ___ continuous hours. Date _______________________________________
Comments__________________________________________________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Installer signature ____________________________________________ End user signature _________________________________
Please return to: Vogt Ice LLC, 1000 W. Ormsby, Suite #19, Louisville, KY 40210

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VOGT
TUBE-ICE®MACHINES
P24AL & P34AL Model
Installation, Service Manual, and Parts Catalog #12A-4171L14
Vogt Ice, LLC
1000 W. Ormsby Avenue, Suite 19
Louisville, Kentucky, 40210
800-853-8648 502-635-3000
Fax: [phone]

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Vogt® TUBE-ICE®MACHINES
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1. INTRODUCTION
A Brief History of Our Company...................................................................................................................................1-1
Vogt Energy-Savings Tube-Ice® Machines ..................................................................................................................1-1
Preview .....................................................................................................................................................................1-1
Important Safety Notice.................................................................................................................................................1-2
Safety Symbols and What They Mean...........................................................................................................................1-2
Special Precautions to Be Observed When Charging Refrigeration Systems................................................................1-3
Assembly Drawing Model P24AL Tube-IceMachine..................................................................................................1-4, 5, 6, 7
Assembly Drawing Model P34AL Tube-IceMachine..................................................................................................1-8, 9, 10, 11
2. RECEIPT OF YOUR TUBE-ICE MACHINE
Inspection .....................................................................................................................................................................2-1
Description of Machine .................................................................................................................................................2-1
Safety Tags and Labels..................................................................................................................................................2-1
Model designation for P-Series Ice Machine, Figure 2-1..............................................................................................2-2
Storage (prior to installation and start-up).....................................................................................................................2-2
3. INSTALLING YOUR TUBE-ICE MACHINE
Machine Room ..............................................................................................................................................................3-1
Space Requirements.......................................................................................................................................................3-1
Foundation.....................................................................................................................................................................3-1
Lifting Procedures .........................................................................................................................................................3-1
P24AL Space Diagram, Figure 3-1................................................................................................................................3-2,3-3
P24AL Foundation Layout, Figure 3-2..........................................................................................................................3-4
P34AL Space Diagram, Figure 3-3................................................................................................................................3-5, 3-6
P34AL Foundation Layout, Figure 3-4..........................................................................................................................3-7
Lifting Procedure for P24AL, Figure 3-5 ......................................................................................................................3-8
Lifting Procedure for P34AL, Figure 3-6 ......................................................................................................................3-9
Seismic Anchoring Detail, Figure 3-7 ...........................................................................................................................3-10
Water Supply, Drain and Refrigeration Connections, Table 3-1 ...................................................................................3-11
Make-Up Water In,........................................................................................................................................................3-11
Flushing Water In..........................................................................................................................................................3-11
Water Tank Drain ..........................................................................................................................................................3-12
Water Tank Overflow....................................................................................................................................................3-12
Receiver .....................................................................................................................................................................3-12
Receiver Volume Requirements, Table 3-2...................................................................................................................3-12

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Suction Pressure Regulator............................................................................................................................................3-12
Compressor Unloading..................................................................................................................................................3-12
Cooling Tower (optional) ..............................................................................................................................................3-13
Total Heat Rejection Requirements, Table 3-3..............................................................................................................3-13
Freeze Protection, Figures 3-8, 3-9, 3-10 ......................................................................................................................3-14, 3-15
Safety Valves ................................................................................................................................................................3-15
Wiring and Electrical Connections................................................................................................................................3-15
Power Supply Connections, Figure 3-11.......................................................................................................................3-16
Voltage Unbalance ........................................................................................................................................................3-16
Current Unbalance.........................................................................................................................................................3-17
Rotation Check..............................................................................................................................................................3-17
Auxiliary Controls or Equipment...................................................................................................................................3-18
Interconnecting Piping for Vogt P24AL and Vogt 24AHS, Figure 3-12.......................................................................3-19
Interconnecting Piping for Vogt P24AL and Dedicated High Side, Figure 3-13 ..........................................................3-20
Interconnecting Piping for Vogt P34AL and Dedicated High Side, Figure 3-14 ..........................................................3-21
Interconnecting Piping for Vogt P24AL and Central High Side, Figure 3-15...............................................................3-22
Interconnecting Piping for Vogt P34AL and Central High Side, Figure 3-16...............................................................3-23
Interconnecting Piping for 2-Vogt P34AL and Central High Side, Figure 3-17 ...........................................................3-24
Interconnecting Piping for 3-Vogt P34AL and Central High Side, Figure 3-18 ...........................................................3-25
Installation Review: A Checklist ...................................................................................................................................3-26
4. HOW YOUR TUBE-ICE MACHINE WORKS
Operating Features.........................................................................................................................................................4-1
Principle of Operation ...................................................................................................................................................4-1
Freeze Period.................................................................................................................................................................4-1
Harvest Period ...............................................................................................................................................................4-2
Piping Nomenclature.....................................................................................................................................................4-2
Piping Schematic for P24AL, Figure 4-1 ......................................................................................................................4-3
Piping Schematic for P34AL, Figure 4-2 ......................................................................................................................4-4
5. START-UP AND OPERATION
Refrigeration System Review ........................................................................................................................................5-1
Start-up Checklist..........................................................................................................................................................5-2
Refrigerant Charge.........................................................................................................................................................5-2
Ammonia Specification by Grade, Table 5-1.................................................................................................................5-2
Special Precautions to be Observed When Charging Refrigeration Systems.................................................................5-2
Charging from Tank Truck (for dedicated high side only) ............................................................................................5-3
Charging from Cylinders (for dedicated high side only)................................................................................................5-3
Control Panel, Figure 5-1 ..............................................................................................................................................5-5
Start-Up .....................................................................................................................................................................5-5
Adding Refrigerant........................................................................................................................................................5-6
Operating Tips...............................................................................................................................................................5-7
Thaw Gas Regulating and Suction Regulating Valve Adjustment.................................................................................5-7

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6. ELECTRICAL CONTROLS & THEIR FUNCTIONS
Bin Level Control..........................................................................................................................................................6-1
Safety Switches..............................................................................................................................................................6-1
Control Panel (Door Opened), Figure 6-1.....................................................................................................................6-2
Description of Control Panel Parts (Inside), Table 6-1..................................................................................................6-2
Control Panel (Door Closed), Figure 6-2 ......................................................................................................................6-3
Description of Control Panel Parts (Outer Door), Table 6-2 .........................................................................................6-3
Electrical Schematic All Voltages 50-60 Hz. Across Line Start, Figure 6-3 .................................................................6-4
7. MAINTENANCE
Preventive Maintenance.................................................................................................................................................7-1
Preventative Maintenance Form ....................................................................................................................................7-2
Ice-Making Section........................................................................................................................................................7-3
Cleaning Procedure........................................................................................................................................................7-3
Water Distributors .........................................................................................................................................................7-3
Water Distributors, Table 7-1........................................................................................................................................7-4
Average Hole Size in Tube-Ice, Table 7-2...................................................................................................................7-4
Water Tank ....................................................................................................................................................................7-4
Compressor (optional) ...................................................................................................................................................7-5
Compressor Maintenance, Table 7-4.............................................................................................................................7-6
Oil Trap ....................................................................................................................................................................7-6
Cutter Gear Reducer......................................................................................................................................................7-6
8. TROUBLESHOOTING
List of Symptoms...........................................................................................................................................................8-1
Machine Stopped...........................................................................................................................................................8-2, 8-3
Freeze-Up Due to Extended Freezing Period ................................................................................................................8-4
Freeze-Up Due to Ice Failing To Discharge ..................................................................................................................8-5
Low Ice Capacity...........................................................................................................................................................8-6, 8-7
Poor Ice Quality.............................................................................................................................................................8-7
High Discharge Pressure................................................................................................................................................8-8
Low Discharge Pressure ................................................................................................................................................8-9
High Suction Pressure ...................................................................................................................................................8-9
Compressor Running Unloaded During Freeze.............................................................................................................8-9
Compressor Oil Pressure Low.......................................................................................................................................8-10
Compressor Loosing Oil Excessively............................................................................................................................8-10
Machine Short Cycles....................................................................................................................................................8-11
High Compressor Discharge Temperature.....................................................................................................................8-11
Suction Line Frosting to Compressor............................................................................................................................8-11
9. SERVICING OPERATIONS
Automatic Blow down (Harvest Cycle).........................................................................................................................9-1
Cleaning the Ice Making Section...................................................................................................................................9-1

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Float Valve (Make-Up Water).......................................................................................................................................9-1
Float Switch...................................................................................................................................................................9-1
P24AL and P34AL Float Height, Figure 9-1.................................................................................................................9-2
Hand Expansion Valve..................................................................................................................................................9-2
Freeze Timer..................................................................................................................................................................9-2
Miniature Rocker Switch Settings for Freeze Timer, Table 9-1 ....................................................................................9-3
Entering and Displaying Set points ...............................................................................................................................9-3
Freeze Timer, Figure 9-2 ...............................................................................................................................................9-4
Freezer Pressure Switch (optional)................................................................................................................................9-4
Freezer Pressure Switch, Figure 9-3..............................................................................................................................9-5
Control Circuit Protection .............................................................................................................................................9-5
Thawing Timer ..............................................................................................................................................................9-5
Thawing Timer, Figure 9-4............................................................................................................................................9-6
Suggested Condenser Cleaning .....................................................................................................................................9-6
Cutter Gear Reducer......................................................................................................................................................9-7
Drive Gear Replacement................................................................................................................................................9-7
Gear Reducer Replacement............................................................................................................................................9-8
Water Tank and Cutter Parts Weights, Table 9-2 ..........................................................................................................9-9
Water Tank Removal.....................................................................................................................................................9-9
Cutter Assembly Removal and Installation....................................................................................................................9-9
Bearing Bracket and Cutter Disc Removal ....................................................................................................................9-10
Cutter Shaft and Bearing Removal ................................................................................................................................9-10
Cutter Shaft and Bearing Installation.............................................................................................................................9-10
Cutter Height Adjustment..............................................................................................................................................9-11
Water Tank Installation .................................................................................................................................................9-12
P24A Cutter Assembly, Figure 9-5A.............................................................................................................................9-12
P24A Water Tank Assembly, Figure 9-5B ....................................................................................................................9-13
P24A and P34A Cutter and Water Tank Part Nos.........................................................................................................9-14
Cutter Ring Gear Replacement......................................................................................................................................9-15
Cutter Blade Replacement .............................................................................................................................................9-15
Cutter Blade and Adapter Plate Adjustment, Figure 9-6 ...............................................................................................9-16
Cutter Adapter Plate Installation....................................................................................................................................9-18
Pumpdown.....................................................................................................................................................................9-16
Removal of Ammonia Refrigerant from the Machine....................................................................................................9-17
Refrigerant Leaks...........................................................................................................................................................9-17
Non-Condensable Gases................................................................................................................................................9-18
Purging Non-Condensables...........................................................................................................................................9-18
Draining the Oil Trap.....................................................................................................................................................9-19
Removing Excess Water from Ammonia.......................................................................................................................9-19
Circulating Water Pump Motor .....................................................................................................................................9-20
The Thaw Gas Solenoid Valve ......................................................................................................................................9-20
Thaw Gas Solenoid Valve, Figure 9-7...........................................................................................................................9-21
The Liquid Feed Solenoid Valve...................................................................................................................................9-21

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The Liquid Feed Solenoid Valve, Figure 9-8 ................................................................................................................9-22
The Thaw Chamber Check Valve..................................................................................................................................9-22
The Thaw Chamber Check Valve, Figure 9-9 ...............................................................................................................9-22
Water Flush Solenoid Valve..........................................................................................................................................9-22
Compressor Cooling Solenoid Valve (dedicated high side only) ..................................................................................9-23
Compressor Oil Changing .............................................................................................................................................9-23
Compressor Inspection ..................................................................................................................................................9-23
Belt Tension...................................................................................................................................................................9-24
Compressor Servicing....................................................................................................................................................9-24
10. OPTIONS AND ACCESSORIES
Crushed Ice Production ................................................................................................................................................10-1
Length of Ice .................................................................................................................................................................10-1
PLC (Programmable Logic Controller) .........................................................................................................................10-1
Mitsubishi E1012 Operator Interface, Figure 10-1........................................................................................................10-2
Mitsubishi PLC..............................................................................................................................................................10-3
Mitsubishi FKIN-24MR PLC and FX2N-8ER-ES/UL, Figure 10-2.............................................................................10-3
Mitsubishi FX3GE-24MR PLC and FX2N-8ER-ES/UL, Figure 10-3..........................................................................10-4
Mitsubishi PLC Input / Outputs, Table 10-1 .................................................................................................................10-4
Wiring Schematic –P24AL/P34AL with Mitsubishi PLC, Figure 10-4........................................................................10-5
Power Monitor...............................................................................................................................................................10-6
Power Monitor, Figure 10-5..........................................................................................................................................10-6
Power Monitor Parameter Limits, Table 10-2 ...............................................................................................................10-7
Parameter Adjustments..................................................................................................................................................10-7
11. TABLES AND CHARTS
P24AL Specifications, Table 11-1.................................................................................................................................11-1
P34AL Specifications, Table 11-2.................................................................................................................................11-2
P24AL Make-up Water Usage, Table 11-3....................................................................................................................11-3
P34A Make-up Water Usage, Table 11-4......................................................................................................................11-3
P24A Normal Operating Vitals, Table 11-5 ..................................................................................................................11-4
P34A Normal Operating Vitals, Table 11-6 ..................................................................................................................11-4
Recommended Spare Parts List .....................................................................................................................................11-5
Temperature - Pressure Chart for Common Refrigerants, Table 11-7 ...........................................................................11-6
Conversion Factors: English to Metric, Table 11-8.......................................................................................................11-7
Constants, Table 11-9....................................................................................................................................................11-7
12. INDEX
APPENDIX A
WARRANTY

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