Leckey Pronestander User manual

Pronestander
User Manual
Supporting
Children English

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The Leckey Pronestander has been
designed to promote weight bearing and
mid line symmetry. This manual shows
you how you can quickly and easily make
use of all the functions. The instructions
on the safety and maintenance of the
product will ensure that you will enjoy the
use of this product for a long time.

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CONTENTS
01 Intended use
02 Certication
03 WarningsandCautions
04 Termsofwarranty
05 Producthistoryrecord
06 Producttrainingrecord
07 SafetyInformation
08 PrecautionsandContraindication
09 Howtounpackandassemble
10 Clinicalsetupforposturalmanagement
11 Frequentadjustmentsfordailyuse
12 Cleaning&careinformation
13 Dailyproductinspection
14 Annualproductinspection
15 ReissuingLeckeyproducts
16 Productservicing
17 Technicalinformation

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SECTION 01:
INTENDED USE
Intended use
Thedevicesareintendedto
assistchildrenthatcannotstand
ormaintainastandingposition
independentlyaspartofasupported
weightbearingprogram.
Indications for use
Pronestanderhasbeendesignedfor
useathomeorschool.Therange
ofproneanglesavailableallowthe
gradualincreasesofweightbearing
astoleranceincreases.Pronestander
isintendedforchildrenfromtheages
1-17years.Suitablefor:
• Childrenwithdisabilitiessuchas
CerebralPalsy,traumaticbrain
injuries,musculardystrophyand
otherconditionswheresupported
standingprogramsareencouraged.
• Childrenpresentingwith
developmentaldelaywhoare
currentlynon-ambulating.
• Childrenwhereearlyinterventionis
indicated.
SECTION 02:
CERTIFICATION
ThePronestanderisclassifiedas
aClassIMedicalDeviceunder
EUandUKregulations.Asthe
manufacturer,JamesLeckeyDesign
Limited,declaresthatthisproduct
conformstotheMedicalDevice
Regulation(2017/745),UKMedical
DeviceRegulations2002,Medial
DeviceDirective(93/42EEC)and
EN12182:2012Assistiveproducts
forpersonswithdisability,general
requirementsandtestmethods.
Notice to the user and/or patient:
any serious incident that has
occurred in relation to the
device should be reported to the
manufacturer and the competent
authority of the member state in
which the user and/or patient is
established.
NOTE:
General user advice
Notfollowingthese
instructionsmayresultin
physicalinjury,damageto
theproductordamageto
theenvironment!

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SECTION 03:
WARNINGS AND CAUTIONS
1) WARNING TOPPLING HAZARD
•Neverusetheproductonasloping
surfacegreaterthan5degrees.
•Alwayscheckoperationoflineardrives,
gasstruts,andmotordrivesbeforeuse.
•Whenadjustingthestanderangle
ensurethereisadequateaccessspace
onallsidesoftheproduct.
•Alwayslockcastersfacingoutwards
beforeplacingtheuserintheproduct.
2) WARNING FINGER TRAP HAZARD
•Ensurethattheuserorcarerdoes
nottouchanymovingjointorpivot
thatisnotlocked.
•Whiletheuserisintheproduct,the
carershouldstrivetokeepproduct
adjustmentstoaminimum.
3) WARNING OCCUPANT SECURITY
•Usertransfersinandoutof
theproductmustbedonewith
appropriateequipmentand
personnel.
•Whentransferringtheuserintothe
product,rstusethepelvicbandto
securetheuser.
•Ensurethatallharnesses,sandal
strapsandchestpadaresecurely
applied.
•Iftheuserexhibitsanyformof
distress,removefromtheproductas
quicklyasissafelypossible.
4) CAUTION FINGER PINCH HAZARD
•Whiletheuserisintheproduct,the
carershouldstrivetokeepproduct
adjustmentstoaminimum.
•Takecarewhenassemblingor
adjustingthepositionofthestander
componentsthatyourngersdo
notgetpinchedwhenpositioning
standercomponentsandtightening
mountings.
•Duringproductassemblyand
adjustment,thecarershouldavoid
ngerpinchingriskoftheproduct’s
jointsorpivots.
•Duringtransfersandadjustments,
thecarershouldavoidthenger
pinchingriskofover-centrebuckles
andlatches.
5) CAUTION DAILY CHECKS
•Thestanderistobechecked
dailybeforeusetoensurethatall
harnessesandstandercomponents
aresecurelyattached.
•Alwayscheckoperationoflinear
drives,gasstruts,andmotordrives
beforeuse.
6) CAUTION TRIP HAZARD WITH
POWERED CHASSIS
•Beforemovingapoweredstander
ensurethatbatterycharging
connectionisremoved.
7) CAUTION CLEANING
•Cleanthestanderregularlyto
preventthebuild-upofdirt.
Accumulateddirtcanprematurely

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SECTION 04:
TERMS OF
WARRANTY
Thewarrantyappliesonlywhen
theproductisusedaccordingto
thespeciedconditionsandforthe
intendedpurposes,followingall
manufacturers’recommendations
(alsoseegeneraltermsofsales,
deliveryandpayment).Athree
yearwarrantyisprovidedonall
Leckeymanufacturedproductsand
components.
SECTION 05:
PRODUCT HISTORY
RECORD
YourLeckeyproductisclassied
asaClass1Medicaldeviceandas
suchshouldonlybeprescribed,
setuporreissuedforusebya
technicallycompetentpersonwho
hasbeentrainedintheuseofthis
product.Leckeyrecommendthat
awrittenrecordismaintainedto
providedetailsofallsetups,reissue
inspectionsandannualinspectionsof
thisproduct.
wearthefabriccomponents
andencouragecorrosiononthe
stander.Onlyusenon-abrasive
householdcleanersandmoist
cloths,donotuserunningwater
ontheupholsterywhilstitisstill
attachedtotheseat.Seesection
Cleaning&careinformation.
8) CAUTION CLEANING POWER
WASHERS/HOSES
•Hosesandpowerwashersare
nottobeusedtocleanthe
product.Standerswiththe
electricliftsystemarenotsealed
againstrunningwaterandmay
bedamagedbywateringress.
SeesectionCleaning&care
information.
9) CAUTION SERVICING/REPAIR OF
ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS
•Allelectronicandelectrical
componentsareNOTuser-
serviceable.Servicingandrepairs
areonlytobecarriedoutby
Leckey-authorisedpersonnel.
10) CAUTION DISPOSAL
•Whendisposingoftheproduct
usingacommunitywastedisposal
site,theframeandanyelectrical
componentsshouldbedisposedof
separately.
11) CAUTION BRINGING INTO USE
•Beforeuse,allow2hoursforthe
producttoacclimatisetoroom
temperature.

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SECTION 06:
PRODUCT TRAINING
RECORD
(PARENTS, TEACHERS & CARERS)
YourLeckeyproductisaprescribed
Class1MedicalDeviceandassuch
Leckeyrecommendthatparents,
teachersandcarersusingthe
equipmentshouldbemadeaware
ofthefollowingsectionsofthisuser
manualbyatechnicallycompetent
person:
Section 07
SafetyInformation
Section 11
FrequentAdjustmentsforDailyuse
Section 13
DailyProductInspection
Leckeyrecommendthatawritten
recordismaintainedofallthosewho
havebeentrainedinthecorrectuse
ofthisproduct.
SECTION 07:
SAFETY
INFORMATION
1. Alwaysreadinstructionsfully
beforeuse.
2. Toimprovewerecommend
thatusersshouldnotbeleft
unattendedatanytimewhilst
usingLeckyequipment.
3. OnlyuseLeckeyapproved
componentswithyourproduct.
Nevermodifytheproductinany
way.Failuretofollowinstructions
mayputtheuserorcareratrisk
andwillinvalidatethewarranty
ontheproduct.
4. Ifinanydoubttothecontinued
safeuseofyourLeckeyproduct
orifanypartsshouldfail,please
ceaseusingtheproductand
contactourcustomerservices
departmentoryourlocaldealer
assoonaspossible.
5. Werecommendthatusersare
nevertransferredstraightfrom
theseatingtostandingwithout
preperationandstretching.This
isbestdonewhilstlyingona
matbutcanbecarriedoutina
wheelchairoraseatingsystemif
required.
6. Carryoutallpositional
adjustmentsandensurethatthey
aresecurelyfastenedbeforeyou
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CleaningandCareInformation

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13. Donotplacehotitemsonthe
traygreaterthan40degrees
14. Cleantheproductregularly.
Donotuseabrasivecleaners.
Carryoutmaintenancechecks
onaregularbasistoensureyour
productisingoodworking
condition.
15. Theproductisdesignedfor
indooruseandwhennotinuse
shouldbestoredinadryplace
thatisnotsubjectedtoextremes
oftemperature.
16. Thesafeoperatingtemperature
rangeoftheproductis+5to+40
degCelsius.
puttheuserintothisproduct.
7. Whenplacingtheuserinto
astandingframe,forsaftey
reasons,alwayssecurethepelvic
bandrst.Thechestandknee
strapsshouldthenbefastened.
8. Whentheproductisstationary
ensureallcastorsarelockedand
facingawayfromthebaseasthis
willimproveproductstability.
9. Neveradjusteithertheangleof
theProstanderoroverallheight
ofthechestplatewhiletheframe
isinuse.Othernerpositional
adjustmentsmaybecarriedout
safelywhentheuserisinthe
frame.
10. Neverleavetheproductona
slopingsurface,greaterthan5
degrees.Alwaysrememberto
lockallthecastors.
11. Theproductcontainscomponents
whichcouldpresentachoking
hazardtosmallchildren.Always
checkthatlockingknobsand
boltswithinthechild’sreachare
tightenedandsecureatalltimes.
12. Leckeyproductscomplywith
resafetyregulationsin
accordancewithEN12182.
Howevertheproductcontains
plasticcomponentsandtherefore
shouldbekeptawayfromall
directsourcesofheatincluding
nakedames,cigarettes,electric
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Contraindications
• Childrenexperiencingpainor
discomfortthatcannotberesolvedby
adjustmentofsupport/positioning
• Childrenwithhip/kneeflexion
contracturebeyondthelimitsofthe
stander
Allprecautionsandcontraindications
aretakenatthediscretionofthe
prescribingclinicianorparent.
Leckeyrecommendsatrainedand
experiencedcliniciantobepresent
duringallinitialassessment,set
ups,configurations,andreissuesto
minimiserisk.
SECTION 08:
PRECAUTIONS AND
CONTRAINDICATIONS
Precautions
• Fixedspinaldeformitiessuchas
scoliosisorkyphosis
• Severemusclecontractures
• Severemuscularorskeletal
asymmetryincludinghipdislocation
• Progressiveandmusclewasting
conditions
• Highriskorrecenthistoryofbone
fractures
• Highriskofpressurerelatedinjuryor
opensores
• Strong,uncontrolledmovement
patterns
• Poorlycontrolledseizureactivity
• Childrendependentontheuse
ofpercutaneousendoscopic
gastrostomy
• Medicalinstabilityincluding
compromisedrespiratoryor
cardiovascularfunction
• Dependanton3rdpartylife-
sustainingapparatussuchasoxygen
tanks
• Significantlearningdisabilitiesand/or
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Safety rst
Keeppolythenebagsaway
fromchildren.
Ensureangleadjuster
barissecurebefore
placingtheuserinthe
Pronestander.
SECTION 09:
HOW TO UNPACK
AND ASSEMBLE
Check Parts
Congratulationsonpurchasingyour
LeckeyPronestander.Whenyou
receiveyourPronestanderitwill
beboxedandpackedat.Thetray
willbeinaseparateparcel.The
Pronestanderwillcomeasstandard
withchestplateincludingexible
laterals,kneeplate,pelvicplate
includingbelt,hingedfootplate,
sandalsandactivitytrayincluding
bowl.
Assembling the Pronestander
ToassemblethePronestander,
twopeopleshouldrstlyliftthe
Pronestanderoutofitsboxor
alternativelyremovethepackaging
andwheelthePronestanderouton
itscastors.Thecastorsshouldthen
belockedintoposition,facingoutof
theframeat45degrees.
9.1 SETTING THE
ANGLE
InordertoxthePronestanderat
thedesiredangle,youshouldrstly
holdthechestplateandgently
swingthemainframeofthestander
upright.Thenloosenthethreebolts
asshownandtheangleadjuster
bar canthenbepositionedto
thedesiredangle.Theplateshould
thenbeplacedbackintopositionand
thethreebolts re-attachedand
tightenedsecurely.
Neverattempttoadjustthe
angleofthePronestander
whentheframeisinuse.

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ThePronestandertrayisattached
byslidingtheouterpolesalready
attachedtothetrayovertheinner
polesalreadyattachedtotheframe
andthentighteningthebolts .The
trayisthensecuredwithatraypin
intooneoftheslots onthesideof
theframe.
9.2 ATTACHING
THE TRAY
9.3 ATTACHING THE
SANDALS
Inserttherequiredattachmentbolt
alongwiththeretentionplate
Placearubberlid on,both,thetop
andbottomofthesandal.Fasten
usingthefourscrews provided.To
removeorreplacetheattachment
bolt,reversethisprocess.

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Inserttherequiredattachmentbolt
alongwiththeretentionplate
.Placearubberlid on,both,the
topandbottomofthesandal.Fasten
usingthefourscrews provided.To
removeorreplacetheattachment
bolt,reversethisprocess.
Placethesandalsothatthe
attachmentboltgoesthroughthe
slotinthefootplate.Tosecure,on
theundersideofthefootplateplace
therubberwasher E,followedby
themetalwasher Fandthenthe
knob Gontotheattachmentbolt.
Topositionthesandalssimplyloosen
theknob Gunderthefootplate,
selectthepositionyourequireand
re-fastentheknob.
E
F
G
G
Theclinicalsetupoftheproduct
shouldbecompletedbyatechnically
andclinicallycompetentperson
whohasbeentrainedintheuseof
theproduct.Leckeyrecommenda
writtenrecordismaintainedofall
clinicalsetupsforthisproduct.
SECTION 10:
CLINICAL SETUP
FOR POSTURAL
MANAGEMENT

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10.1 SETTING
THE ANGLE
Thereisachoiceofvedifferent
anglepositionsonthePronestander.
Dependingontheuser’stoleranceto
standing,youcanchoosetoposition
themanywherefromaveryprone
angletoalmostupright.
Onceyouhaveselectedthedesired
angle,youcansetuptherestofthe
Pronestandertosuittheuser.
Ensureangleadjusterbaris
securebeforeplacinguser
inthePronestander.
10.2 ADJUSTING
THE HEIGHT OF THE
CHEST PLATE
Youshouldrstlymeasurethe
distancefromtheuser’sfeettojust
undertheirarms.Thisisbestdone
wherepracticalinalyingdown
positiononamat.Theheightbetween
thetopofthechestplateandsandals
shouldbesettotheequivalentof
thisdistance.Theheightofthechest
platecanthenbealteredbyloosening
theknobsonthesideoftheframe.
Onceloosened,thiswillallowthe
wholeinnersection(includingchest
plate,pelvicplateandkneeplate)to
moveupanddown.Oncetherequired
heightisobtained,theknobsshould
bere-tightenedsecurely.
Neverattempttoadjust
theheightofthemain
framewhenthestanderis
inuse.
Checkadjustmentknobson
thechestplatearesecure
beforeplacingtheuserinthe
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10.3 ADJUSTING THE
PELVIC PLATE
Theheightofthepelvicplateisset
totheequivalentdistancebetween
thetopoftheuser’spelvisandtheir
feet.Thepelvicplateisadjustedby
looseningthebolt,oneachsideof
theplateandslidingthepadded
plateintotherequiredposition.Once
therequiredpositionisobtained,
thebolts, shouldbere-tightened
securely.
10.5 ADJUSTING THE
KNEE CUPS
10.4 ADJUSTING
THE KNEE PLATE
Theheightofthekneeplateis
adjustedbylooseningthebolts on
eachsideofthekneeplate,slidingthe
kneeplateintotherequiredposition
andthenre-tighteningthebolts
securely.
Minoradjustmentstothe
kneeandpelvicplatemay
bemadeduringuse.
Alwaysusecautiontoensure
ngersdonotbecometrapped
whenadjustingthekneeplate.
Thekneecupscanbemovedfromleft
torightandeachkneecupisxedby
asingleboltatthebackoftheknee
plate.Toadjustthekneecuploosen
thebolt,positionthekneecupas

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10.6 ATTACHING THE
PELVIC BAND
Alwaysusecautionto
ensurengersdonot
becometrappedwhen
adjustingthekneecups.
Thepelvicbandshouldbeattached
totheuserrst,againifpracticalon
amat.Thepelvicstrapsareattached
aroundtheuser’spelvisandthe
longerstrapsareslippedthrough
theD-Ringsonthepelvicplateand
securedrmlybehindtheuserwith
Velcroonthebelt.Toensurethat
youcaneasilyidentifythestrapthat
goesaroundtheuserandtheone
thatattachestotheframe,aLeckey
labelissewnontotheonethatgoes
aroundtheframe.
required,thenre-tightenthebolt
securely. Alwayssecurethepelvic
bandandsafetystrap
rstthenthecheststrap
andtheusersfeet.

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SECTION 11
FREQUENT
ADJUSTMENTS
FOR DAILY USE
Parentsandcarersshouldbeshown
howtomakefrequentadjustments
andmadeawareofthesafetychecks
insection7byatechnicallyand
clinicallycompetentpersonwho
hasbeentrainedintheuseofthe
product.Leckeyrecommendthata
writtenrecordismaintainedofall
parentandcarerswhohavebeen
trainedintheuseofthisproduct.
Beforetransferringthechildintothe
standercarryoutthedailyproduct
inspectionasoutlinedinsection13of
thisusermanual.Beforetransferring
thechildintotheproductlockall
thecastors,ensuringthattheyare
facingoutwardstomaximiseproduct
stability.Makesurethestrapsonthe
chest,hipsupportharnessesand
sandalsarereleasedandoutofthe
waytofacilitatetransfer.
11.1 TRANSFERRING
THE USER INTO AND
OUT OF THE STANDER
Alwayssecurethepelvic
bandandsafetystrap
rstthenthecheststrap
andtheusersfeet.
ThePronestanderfootplateissplit
andhingedatthebackofthe
footboard.Thisallowsthesandals
tobeadjustedmoreeasilyandcan
facilitatetransferfromaseating
position,toawheelchairforexample.
Topositionthesandalssimply
loosentheknobunderthefootplate
(photo1),selectthepositionyou
requireandre-fastentheknob.To
positiontheuser’sfeetinthesandals
11.2 ADJUSTING
THE SANDALS AND
FOOTPLATES

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securetheVelcrostrapsprovidedso
thefootisheldinplace.Thestraps
shouldbeplacedoverthebridgeof
thefootandoverthetoes.Thefront
strapcanbefedthroughoneoftwo
slotsoneithersideofthesandals,
dependingonthesizeoftheuser’s
feet(photo2).
Ifthechildiswearing
sandalsorlightfootwear
checkthestrapstomake
surethewebbingdoes
notirritatetheskin.
2
1
ThePronestanderexiblelateral
supportscanbeadjustedinandout
bylooseningtheboltonthebackof
thechestplate.Oncethisbolthas
beenloosened,theexiblelateral
supportscanbeadjustedtothe
requiredpositionandonceinposition
theboltsshouldbere-tightened
securely.Theexiblelateralsalso
haveasmallamountofheight
adjustment.Toaltertheheightloosen
theallenbolts ,positionthelaterals
asrequiredandthenre-tightenthe
allenbolts securely.Theexible
lateralsupportsaresecuredaround
theuserbytighteningthesafetystrap
intoposition.Fastenthesafetystrap
immediately.
11.3 FLEXIBLE
LATERAL SUPPORT
ADJUSTMENT
Alwaysusecautionto
ensurengersdonot
becometrappedwhen
adjustingthelateral
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11.4 ADJUSTING
THE TRAY
Thetraycanbeheightandangle
adjustedbylooseningthebolts
onthetraypoles,adjustingto
therequiredpositionandthenre-
tighteningthebolts securely.The
positionofthetraycanalsobealtered
inrelationtothechestplate.Oneof
threepositionscanbeselectedtohelp
facilitategoodhandfunction.
11.5 ATTACHING THE
PELVIC BAND
Thepelvicbandshouldbeattached
totheuserrst,againifpractical
onamat.Thepelvicstrapsare
attachedaroundtheuser’spelvis.
Thelongerstrapsareslippedthrough
theD-Ringsonthepelvicplateand
securedrmlybehindtheuserwith
Velcroonthebelt.Toensurethat
youcaneasilyidentifythestrapthat
goesaroundtheuserandtheone
thatattachestotheframe,aLeckey
labelissewnontotheonethatgoes
aroundtheframe.
Alwayssecurethepelvic
bandandsafetystraprst
thenthecheststrapand
theusersfeet.

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SECTION 12:
CLEANING & CARE
INFORMATION
How to Maintain
Whencleaningtheproductwe
recommendthatyouuseonlywarm
waterandanon-abrasivedetergent.
Neveruseorganicsolventsordry
cleaninguids.
Upholstery and fabrics
1. Theupholsteryandfabricscanbe
cleanedbyhandwhilstinplace.
Whencleaningwerecommend
thatyouuseonlywarmwater
andanonabrasivedetergent.
2. Stainingshouldberemoved
asquicklyaspossiblewith
absorbentcloth,towelsora
sponge.Routinesoapandwarm
waterspongingiseffectivefor
ordinarysoilingandminorspills.
Becarefulnottooverwetthe
fabric,
asthiswillcausethestainingto
spread.
3. Antisepticcleaningagents
canbeusedonmorestubborn
stains.Thesemayrequireasafe
solventsuchasIsopropylAlcohol
orMineralSpirit.Ahalfcupof
householdbleachto5litresof
watercanalsobeusedasa
usefuldisinfectant.
Metal, plastic and wooden
components
1. Soapandwaterorantibacterial
spraycanbeusedfordaily
cleaning.
2. Fordeepcleaningalowpressure
steamcleanercanbeused.
3. Donotusesolventstoclean
plasticwoodenormetal
components.
4. Makesuretheproductisdry
beforeuse.
5. Checkallwoodencomponents
regularlytoensurethereareno
cracksorsplitters.
Ifinanydoubttothe
continuedsafeuseofyour
Leckeyproductorifany
partsshouldfail,please
ceaseusingtheproduct
andcontactourcustomer
careteamoryourlocal
dealerassoonaspossible.

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SECTION 13:
DAILY PRODUCT
INSPECTION
(Therapists, parents & carers)
Werecommendthatdailyvisual
checksoftheequipmentarecarried
outbytherapists,carersorparents
toensuretheproductissafeforuse.
Therecommendeddailychecksare
detailedbelow.
1. Ensurealladjustmentknobsare
inplaceandsecure.
2. Checkallupholsteryandvelcro
forsignsofwearandtear
3. Checkallcastorsaremoving
freelyandlocksecurely.
4. CheckallVelcrostripsandbrush
ufftoensurestrapssecure
rmly.
5. Checkadjustmentknobsonthe
chestplatearesecurebefore
placingtheuserintheproduct.
6. Ensureangleadjusterbaris
securebeforeplacingtheuserin
theproduct.
SECTION 14:
ANNUAL PRODUCT
INSPECTION
(Therapist, Technician, Leckey
Product Specialist, Dealer)
Leckeyrecommendthateachproduct
shouldbesubjecttoadetailed
inspectionatleastonceayearand
everytimetheproductisreissued
foruse.Thisinspectionshouldbe
carriedoutbyatechnicallycompetent
personwhohasbeentrainedinthe
useoftheproductandshouldinclude
thefollowingchecksasaminimum
requirement.
1. Checkallknobs,nuts,boltsand
plasticbucklesareinplace,
replacinganymissingitems.
Payingparticularattentiontothe
followingitems;
2. Liftthebasetocheckeachcastor
individually.Makesuretheyare
movingfreelyandremoveanydirt
fromtherubberwheels.Check
thatthebrakeslockthewheels
securely.
• Chestandhipheightandangle
adjustments
• Kneecupsadjustmentknobs
Ifinanydoubttothe
continuedsafeuseofyour
Leckeyproductorifany
partsshouldfail,please
ceaseusingtheproduct
andcontactourcustomer
careteamoryourlocal
dealerassoonaspossible.